Comments on: Answers on FedEx and Writing Letters to Senators http://cybersteward.net/2009/07/14/answers-on-fedex-and-writing-letters-to-senators/ rank-and-file union views since 2003 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:32:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Mark http://cybersteward.net/2009/07/14/answers-on-fedex-and-writing-letters-to-senators/comment-page-1/#comment-4899 Mark Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:35:33 +0000 http://cybersteward.net/?p=498#comment-4899 Mary Jo: do you know for a fact that the company is sending letters without employees knowing? Or is this a rumor you've heard? We all know how the rumors can fly in the workplace, especially at UPS. If you've heard rumors to this effect you should probably not be helping to spread them, but if you can prove the company is doing something illegal, you should be telling the story to someone else, like a lawyer or a government agency. Matt: I have sympathy for you if things are as bad as you're saying. I've been around long enough and had enough complaints that I know what it's like when the company and the union both seem to be against a worker. But something can and should be done if this is the case. Contact the NLRB and see what they have to say. If the company is doing what the two people above have said, that is shameful, and if the union is in any way helping or ignoring company abuse, even more so. Even so, I still don't understand why anyone working for UPS would be against this campaign (Matt, could you explain why you think this effort is just for UPS's benefit and not yours too?). In my hub in So Cal, I've seen management act stupidly too while trying to get people to send letters, but I also understand that I would like to retire with a little security in another dozen years or so, and this effort will help with that. In fact, this effort will help all employees at UPS with that, as well as thousands of Fedex people too. It's true that this law will benefit UPS, but it will also benefit all those workers. I'm not sure how being against this effort benefits anyone except those in upper management at Fedex. Just my opinion, but if you're against this and you're not Fred Smith, you're more or less shooting yourself in the foot. Mary Jo: do you know for a fact that the company is sending letters without employees knowing? Or is this a rumor you’ve heard? We all know how the rumors can fly in the workplace, especially at UPS. If you’ve heard rumors to this effect you should probably not be helping to spread them, but if you can prove the company is doing something illegal, you should be telling the story to someone else, like a lawyer or a government agency.

Matt: I have sympathy for you if things are as bad as you’re saying. I’ve been around long enough and had enough complaints that I know what it’s like when the company and the union both seem to be against a worker. But something can and should be done if this is the case. Contact the NLRB and see what they have to say.

If the company is doing what the two people above have said, that is shameful, and if the union is in any way helping or ignoring company abuse, even more so.

Even so, I still don’t understand why anyone working for UPS would be against this campaign (Matt, could you explain why you think this effort is just for UPS’s benefit and not yours too?). In my hub in So Cal, I’ve seen management act stupidly too while trying to get people to send letters, but I also understand that I would like to retire with a little security in another dozen years or so, and this effort will help with that. In fact, this effort will help all employees at UPS with that, as well as thousands of Fedex people too. It’s true that this law will benefit UPS, but it will also benefit all those workers.

I’m not sure how being against this effort benefits anyone except those in upper management at Fedex. Just my opinion, but if you’re against this and you’re not Fred Smith, you’re more or less shooting yourself in the foot.

]]> By: admin http://cybersteward.net/2009/07/14/answers-on-fedex-and-writing-letters-to-senators/comment-page-1/#comment-4887 admin Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:43:24 +0000 http://cybersteward.net/?p=498#comment-4887 Mary Jo & Matt, If you are being harassed to write the letter, you can contact the union. If the union doesn't give you satisfaction on this issue, you can contact the NLRB or another appropriate government agency to file a charge. If the company is writing letters on behalf of employees and/or sending them without the employees' consent, I would suggest the same recourse. Like I said in my earlier comment (and in the post), if you're interested in furthering worker's rights, this is an important campaign -- <strong>but</strong> if you don't want to write the letter for any reason, you have that right, and you have several avenues of recourse if someone has violated that right. If you have in fact been violated, I strongly urge you to stand up for yourselves, whether via the union or other legal or regulatory means. We all have these rights, but it's up to us to stand up and claim them. Mary Jo & Matt,

If you are being harassed to write the letter, you can contact the union. If the union doesn’t give you satisfaction on this issue, you can contact the NLRB or another appropriate government agency to file a charge.

If the company is writing letters on behalf of employees and/or sending them without the employees’ consent, I would suggest the same recourse.

Like I said in my earlier comment (and in the post), if you’re interested in furthering worker’s rights, this is an important campaign — but if you don’t want to write the letter for any reason, you have that right, and you have several avenues of recourse if someone has violated that right.

If you have in fact been violated, I strongly urge you to stand up for yourselves, whether via the union or other legal or regulatory means. We all have these rights, but it’s up to us to stand up and claim them.

]]> By: Matt http://cybersteward.net/2009/07/14/answers-on-fedex-and-writing-letters-to-senators/comment-page-1/#comment-4834 Matt Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:19:21 +0000 http://cybersteward.net/?p=498#comment-4834 I am a UPS employee and I decided that i was not comfortable writing the letter because it is my right not too. After opting to do this i was continually harassed by my hub manager (number one boss in the building) for several days when i asked for union representation the union decided not to represent me because they are on the same side as management. I have worked at UPS for the last four years and this was the first time i have ever felt uncomfortable going to work. I understand why UPS feels this way but I am not going to let a company use my right as an american for their benefit. Reno,NV I am a UPS employee and I decided that i was not comfortable writing the letter because it is my right not too. After opting to do this i was continually harassed by my hub manager (number one boss in the building) for several days when i asked for union representation the union decided not to represent me because they are on the same side as management. I have worked at UPS for the last four years and this was the first time i have ever felt uncomfortable going to work. I understand why UPS feels this way but I am not going to let a company use my right as an american for their benefit.
Reno,NV

]]> By: Mary Jo http://cybersteward.net/2009/07/14/answers-on-fedex-and-writing-letters-to-senators/comment-page-1/#comment-4821 Mary Jo Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:43:46 +0000 http://cybersteward.net/?p=498#comment-4821 What about UPS writing letters for employees who don't write the letter. That is an illegal practice that is currently happening that goes against for what unions stand. What about UPS writing letters for employees who don’t write the letter. That is an illegal practice that is currently happening that goes against for what unions stand.

]]> By: admin http://cybersteward.net/2009/07/14/answers-on-fedex-and-writing-letters-to-senators/comment-page-1/#comment-4670 admin Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:42:00 +0000 http://cybersteward.net/?p=498#comment-4670 Exactly, Mark. I think part of the problem is they're not willing to put the necessary time and effort into it. I'm not even sure most of the management reps trying to solicit support understand the issue much better than the workers they're trying to reach. Exactly, Mark.

I think part of the problem is they’re not willing to put the necessary time and effort into it. I’m not even sure most of the management reps trying to solicit support understand the issue much better than the workers they’re trying to reach.

]]> By: Mark http://cybersteward.net/2009/07/14/answers-on-fedex-and-writing-letters-to-senators/comment-page-1/#comment-4643 Mark Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:51:25 +0000 http://cybersteward.net/?p=498#comment-4643 People need to get up to speed on this subject. It's a shame UPS is going about their campaign this way, because it's a worthwhile campaign. It would be sad if people were scared away from a worthy cause because it's being poorly represented (by the people in favor of it, no less!) People need to get up to speed on this subject. It’s a shame UPS is going about their campaign this way, because it’s a worthwhile campaign. It would be sad if people were scared away from a worthy cause because it’s being poorly represented (by the people in favor of it, no less!)

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